DTR (Deep-Thinking Ratio) does not predict tutoring quality despite predicting math accuracy¶
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q2 i0 On the DeepSeek-R1-8B base, DTR is essentially uncorrelated with every measured tutoring outcome (all |r| < 0.09), although the same probe achieves r = 0.683 on math accuracy in its original setting. → dtr-null-1
Evidence¶
dtr-null-1¶
Shim Jaechang and Unggi Lee. 2026. The Tutoring Effectiveness Index: Predicting LLM Math Tutor Quality from Four Conversation Signals. In Proceedings of The 35th ACM International Conference on Information and Knowledge Management (CIKM '26). https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.30666 doi:10.48550/arxiv.2605.30666
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Correlational analysis on n=500 in-domain scenarios with paired DTR and judge metrics on the DeepSeek-R1-8B base; all correlations negligible (largest |r| = 0.076). A causal Cons@8 steering intervention raising DTR by +17.3% left tutoring quality unchanged (Wilcoxon p=1.0).
"DTR is uncorrelated with Δ Solve Rate (𝑟=+ 0.055), with judge-rated helpfulness (𝑟= +0.035), with leak rate (borderline𝑟=− 0.076,𝑝= 0.092), and with pedagogical quality (𝑟=+ 0.051)."
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DTR (Deep-Thinking Ratio) does not predict tutoring quality despite predicting math accuracy |
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DTR (Deep-Thinking Ratio) does not predict tutoring quality despite predicting math accuracy |
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