Multi-turn reflective interaction does not restore selective updating and destabilizes weaker simulators¶
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q2 i? In a multi-turn setting where the model first generates reflective reasoning for its incorrect answer, SFS remains low and largely indistinguishable from single-turn, with weaker models degrading further. → Heejin Do 2026
Evidence¶
Heejin Do 2026¶
Heejin Do, Shashank Sonkar, Mrinmaya Sachan. (2026). Simulating Students or Sycophantic Problem Solving? On Misconception Faithfulness of LLM Simulators. Preprint. https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.12748 doi:10.48550/arxiv.2605.12748
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Multi-turn simulation experiment in which models first generate first-turn reasoning judged for coherence and misconception alignment by GPT-4o-mini; the text reports "SFS remains low and largely indistinguishable from the single-turn setting."
"Figure 4(right)shows that multi-turn interaction does not resolve the failure: SFS remains low and largely indistinguishable from the single-turn setting. In weaker models, performance further degrades, indicating that additional reasoning step introduces instability rather than improving selective updating."
Discussion¶
Related Claims¶
- Stronger problem-solving capability predicts lower misconception faithfulness: flip rate under generic feedback correlates negatively with SFS (Pearson r = -0.94, p = 0.002) — related
- LLM student simulators exhibit near-zero Selective Flip Score, flipping at similarly high rates under targeted, misaligned, and generic feedback — a broader claim this one bears on
- Supervised fine-tuning on misconception-faithful demonstrations sharply improves SFS (up to +0.555 on Malrule for Qwen3-4B) — related
- SFS-aligned post-training generalizes out-of-domain: models trained on one dataset retain substantial SFS gains on the other — related
- A 4B per-student simulator solves a held-out Socratic-guidance chess case where prompted GPT-5.4 fails, indicating multi-turn training adds guidance-following capability beyond hint copying — related
- The competence paradox: broadly capable LLMs cannot genuinely unknow expert knowledge when simulating novices — related
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Multi-turn reflective interaction does not restore selective updating and destabilizes weaker simulators |
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Multi-turn reflective interaction does not restore selective updating and destabilizes weaker simulators |
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