The alternative models proposed by Sorjonen et al. relied on specifications that raised model-validity concerns or did not fully capture the extended REM's temporal structure¶
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q1 i? In the authors' view, the models proposed by Sorjonen et al. relied on specifications that raised concerns about model validity or did not fully capture the temporal structure central to the extended REM. → Fernando Núñez-Regueiro 2025
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Fernando Núñez-Regueiro 2025¶
Fernando Núñez-Regueiro, Herbert W Marsh, Reinhard Pekrun, Oliver Lüdtke, Jiesi Guo. (2025). The Reciprocal Effects Model is Robust to Alternative Modeling Specifications: A Response to Sorjonen et al., 2025. Educational Psychology Review, 37 (3), pp.79. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10648-025-10059-7
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This is the authors' methodological critique of the alternative models proposed in the Sorjonen et al. (2025) commentary, stated in the article's introduction of the dispute. The article offers this as an interpretive assessment rather than a tested result, noting the specifications "raised some concerns about model validity".
"the models they proposed relied on specifications that, iour view, raised some concerns about model validity or did not fully capture the temporal structure central to Marsh et al.'s (2024) extended reciprocal effects model (REM)"
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The alternative models proposed by Sorjonen et al. relied on specifications that raised model-validity concerns or did not fully capture the extended REM's temporal structure |
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The alternative models proposed by Sorjonen et al. |
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